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Lahoward
02-01-2009, 07:26 PM
I was curious if there were a way to determine wall distances for the ballparks in SB. So I pasted each one into paint and was amazed at how the distance measure in paint actually was close to real park distances. The measurements are from HP to left & right foul poles, the furthest distances in L & R centers and CF.

Standard Park
LF:236
LC:291
CF:300
RC:291
RF:236
HR advantage 0

HR Park
LF:197
LC:242
CF:287
RC:242
RF:213
HR Adv:Rghty 4%

World Park
LF:251
LC:283
CF:287
RC:283
RF:251
HR Adv:0

Brickyard
LF:243
LC:325
CF:295
RC:264
RF:243
HR Adv: Lefty 12%

Field of Dreams
LF:233
LC:302
CF:302
RC:329
RF:257
HR Adv: Righty 10%

Centenial
LF:200
LC:253
CF:335
RC:341
RF:256
HR Adv:Righty 32%

Ocean Park
LF:234
LC:298
CF:305
RC:274
RF:222
HR Adv: Lefty 7%

Letterbox
LF:241
LC:223
CF:194
RC:192
RF:252
HR Adv: Lefty 5%

Monster
LF:258
LC:267
CF:283
RC:250
RF:249
HR Adv:Lefty 5%

Jurasic
LF:265
LC:294
CF:344
RC:344
RF:281
HR Adv:Righty 12%

Alice
LF:243
LC:264
CF:295
RC:325
RF:243
HR Adv:Righty 12%






So to summarize Centenial Park can somewhat even up the lefty advantage with the HR advantage but like in real bb its all about OBP & the leftys own that.

Hope this helps


Edit: Redbirds33 had screen of Jurasic and i used it to get its numbers. The CF area in Jurasic was off the board so i went with what showed.

LilChris2434
02-01-2009, 07:38 PM
Good info. It was helpful for me.

lostpatriot
02-01-2009, 07:43 PM
impressive, this info can definitely come in handy down the road. Good work

NRaider
02-01-2009, 09:24 PM
Think your numbers are off. I have hit a 225 feet homerun in HR park. Also Cententials left field is alot more shallow than that.

redbirds33
02-01-2009, 09:27 PM
I agree with NRaider. Your distances might be proportionally accurate, but they all look a little long.

Commish posted this link a few weeks ago regarding Jurassic. Maybe it will help you:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bjGOcUzquAA/SVs5pVlc6OI/AAAAAAAAABo/0iCVVkaqCwM/s1600-h/jurassicpark+hole.jpg

Lahoward
02-01-2009, 09:50 PM
Think your numbers are off. I have hit a 225 feet homerun in HR park. Also Cententials left field is alot more shallow than that.

I'm sure you're correct as these were just pasted into paint and given as a general idea. While the distance to the wall may be 250 i measured to the top of the wall so the distance changes by the height of the wall changes true distance in reality in SB maybe not.

You can check these yourself just print screen, paste into paint then click image in the tabs on top, click attributes, make sure unit are in inches, hold leftclick at homeplate and scroll cursor to the wall. look at the biggest number in lower right of screen.

Again i by no means believe these are concrete but are a decent general guide.

redbirds33
02-01-2009, 10:04 PM
Hey sorry to double post this, but I want to make sure you didn't miss it because it could help you get the Jurassic Park distances.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bjGOcUzquAA/SVs5pVlc6OI/AAAAAAAAABo/0iCVVkaqCwM/s1600-h/jurassicpark+hole.jpg

Lahoward
02-01-2009, 11:39 PM
Hey sorry to double post this, but I want to make sure you didn't miss it because it could help you get the Jurassic Park distances.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bjGOcUzquAA/SVs5pVlc6OI/AAAAAAAAABo/0iCVVkaqCwM/s1600-h/jurassicpark+hole.jpg

Thanks for the screen Redbird I updated it. Jurasic and HR park is garbled for some reason on my pc. I can get HR park to run occasionaly but no luck with Jurasic.

NRaider
02-02-2009, 12:59 AM
pretty sure LF in Jurrasic is around 350.

mrflanell
02-02-2009, 01:45 AM
thank you so mush thsi was just tje ting i was looking for
great

Lahoward
02-02-2009, 05:20 AM
You were right nraider. I checked the distance between HP & 1B and in paint it was 140ft and in real parks its 90ft. I adjusted distances accordingly.

I hope work picks up i have way too much time on my hands.

*THE*MANNY
02-05-2009, 05:33 PM
Wow! That's some very interesting info. However, for Ocean, BY, and Alice, I would say that for BY, for example, the HR advantage would be more like 90ish% lefty. You have to take into account the height and the fact that righties almost never hit it out there. Same for Alice, except reversed, and almost the same for Ocean.

Btw, the HR advantage is a very interesting feature you added.

mrflanell
02-05-2009, 05:35 PM
is there a way to colcolate out how mush ft a hitter must hit to make homerun for the diffrent stadiums ?

redbirds33
02-05-2009, 05:39 PM
I hit one 303 to left in Jurassic. We need alot of data where people post their shortest homers to get those figures.

Lahoward
02-05-2009, 06:15 PM
to be honest i think it helps me set up my outfielders more than anything. like in centinial park the lf has very little room to cover and most flyballs out there will be HR's anyway so speed or throw isn't so important anymore in LF in that park imo.

themanny: you are correct. i did try and add in the height for distances the best i could (measured to the top of wall). I'm sure if someone had a cad program they could get the accurate distances with height calc in.

mrflannell: i think what redbirds said would probably be the most accurate method.

Lahoward
02-05-2009, 06:24 PM
You were right nraider. I checked the distance between HP & 1B and in paint it was 140ft and in real parks its 90ft. I adjusted distances accordingly.

I hope work picks up i have way too much time on my hands.

hey redbirds i have since corrected the distances by quite a bit by the method above so your jurasic HR fit to the specs.

The Troubadour
02-06-2009, 04:50 PM
"like in centinial park the lf has very little room to cover and most flyballs out there will be HR's anyway so speed or throw isn't so important anymore in LF in that park imo"


Actually, I find it to be exactly the opposite. LF throw is the most important arm in the field when playing a righty team in Centennial. Why? The Left Fielder can easily throw out runners at third when runners are on 1st and 2nd and a single gets through. And he can also throw out runners at second if the grounder is a bullet and his throw is maxed.

*THE*MANNY
02-06-2009, 05:08 PM
themanny: you are correct. i did try and add in the height for distances the best i could (measured to the top of wall). I'm sure if someone had a cad program they could get the accurate distances with height calc in.

What I meant was not that it could really be calculated by the height of the wall, because it is unrealisticly hard to hit it out. It's like trying to hit it over the Green Monster but like 10 times harder. In other words, it can't be calculated in based on height, it just has to be estimated how often someone hits it out in left (right for Alice).

Lahoward
02-06-2009, 06:48 PM
"like in centinial park the lf has very little room to cover and most flyballs out there will be HR's anyway so speed or throw isn't so important anymore in LF in that park imo"


Actually, I find it to be exactly the opposite. LF throw is the most important arm in the field when playing a righty team in Centennial. Why? The Left Fielder can easily throw out runners at third when runners are on 1st and 2nd and a single gets through. And he can also throw out runners at second if the grounder is a bullet and his throw is maxed.
Although the wall in LF is in closer at Centenial the distances to RF & LF from homeplate/2B remain unchanged. If you do happen to have a man on 1st and 2nd both the 1B & 2B are both covering their respective bases leaving the whole rightside open (this is the sole reason for the leftys being so valuable), while SS & 3B is still covering their left side. RF has same advantage as LF on throws to 2B because distances are equal. RF also has the advantage from keeping players from even reaching 1B being able to throw out at 1B.

I'm sure both have their advantages.





What I meant was not that it could really be calculated by the height of the wall, because it is unrealisticly hard to hit it out. It's like trying to hit it over the Green Monster but like 10 times harder. In other words, it can't be calculated in based on height, it just has to be estimated how often someone hits it out in left (right for Alice).
I see what you're saying themanny. A 500ft line drive that would normally put a Drew Barrymore goose egg on a spectator would just take a harmless bounce off the wall. I have a pretty few powerful righties, i may play a few in the by this weekend and see if i can at least get a # on one.

Commish
02-08-2009, 02:23 AM
wow great job!

yungcurtis
02-09-2009, 01:49 AM
This guide is very good, it helps a lot. Great work!

redbirds33
02-09-2009, 05:22 AM
It would be so cool if Commish could put a sign on the walls with the numbers.

*THE*MANNY
02-10-2009, 05:14 PM
It would be so cool if Commish could put a sign on the walls with the numbers.

That would be a seriously cool idea!

Roughnecks
02-10-2009, 05:51 PM
It would be so cool if Commish could put a sign on the walls with the numbers.That would be a nice upgrade! Do it Commish!

yungcurtis
02-10-2009, 11:08 PM
Yeah that would be a great update / upgrade, it would make SB look more official!

DrewFT
02-12-2009, 09:15 PM
It would definately make it look legit :)

yungcurtis
02-13-2009, 08:24 AM
Yup, someone should drop a hint to Commish! :arf:

redbirds33
02-16-2009, 04:02 PM
I just saw one 325 to right at Monster. It was barely over the wall, but I bet a shorter one is possible. Game 4358 top of the 5th.

yungcurtis
02-17-2009, 10:37 AM
Yeah I have seen less than that to right in Monster if I find the game I will share.

redbirds33
02-19-2009, 09:05 AM
288 to left in Jurassic. That has to be about the shortest there.
Game 4649, top of 6th

Gunnen
03-20-2009, 01:26 PM
bump